Peter Parker
August 25, 2010 17:58
Peeing contest is not a word I would use professionally and may I remind "Green Gob" that he/she has done the same in response!
Freedom of speech is paramount in web forums and blogs! What would be the point if it was censored?
In fact this sort of response can lead to a safer
use of platforms.
Vertikal do a superb job and "comments" are a part of this.
Everybody has a view and they are often different.
Respect,
Spiderman
Norman Osbourne
August 7, 2010 13:29
Whilst we are all being childish in our comments and attempts to take a POP at each other, let us all remember that we work in a serious industry, and there are serious consequences when accidents happen.
To ALL you guys (Higher Access, CTE, Teupen and Spiderman), a web forum like this is not the place for a peeing contest, let us respect the work of the Vertikal crew and use this opportunity to comment professionally.
To set the record straight, ALL manufacturers of narrow 'spiders' have seen a number of their machines tipped over in this way and I would suspect that in every case there is human error, misuse or bad practice at fault.
Best Wishes,
THE GREEN GOBLIN
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Peter Parker
August 6, 2010 19:25
I openly challenge Teupen for figures on the quantity of 15GT's rolled over whilst being driven
in the UK and ask how many of these where operator
error?
best wishes,
Spiderman.
Peter Parker
August 6, 2010 19:02
This was caused by operator error. If you drive a tracked or wheeled machine(any manufacturer)over a pallet,you can expect this outcome!
Just another example of a properly trained operator in a hurry!
The picture (croped) does not fully show the wooden pallet he/she was traversing across.
Pallets are rated for load and are not rated for this type of use.
Graeme Hill
August 3, 2010 14:27
This is an unfortunate incident and thankfully nobody was injured. The fact that this machine is fitted with an umbilical cord controller allowing the operator to stand well clear of the machine has indeed helped.
It is unfortunate that the operator has elected not to partially lower the outriggers when travelling to negotiate this obstacle. This is a stipulation of the safe operation of this machine when being used on rough or uneven ground, and this is clearly demonstrated to operators during IPAF 1b training and during equipment handover.
CTE takes product safety very seriously and although this incident appears to be operator error, CTE will gather all the facts relating to this incident for further comment.
Tobias Koerner
August 3, 2010 10:38
An accident with a working platform is always giving cause for concerns, but should such an issue like the recent tip of a CTE spiderlift always be blamed on the operator? And does a narrow machine necessarily need to have limitations in use?
"Of course, a profound training is essential to operate a spiderlift properly", says Teupen CEO Alfons Thihatmer. "However, the demands for spiderlifts in modern archtitecture and facility management are increasing and we have to recognise that not every spiderlift is suitable to do a spiderlift job."
With its 24 years of experience in height access technology, Teupen produces platforms with innovative unique features which could have avoided this particular accident. The LEO spiderlifts are equipped with a patented crawler chassis, which makes the crawlers adjustable in height and in width. "The crawlers can be adjusted individually on either side of the machine, so that the center of gravity will be kept at fall-side. Therefore the platform can compensate a fall of ground up to 30%.", explains Thihatmer. "Kerbs, slopes etc. shouldn't be a problem for a modern spiderlift."
Lucy Ashburner
August 3, 2010 10:07
As an IPAF Rental + accredited company, Higher Access take our responsibilities very seriously. In this case, we can confirm that the operator had the correct IPAF category 1b licence and was fully familiar with the machines operational capabilities; he had used the equipment for over two weeks. Operators are aware that outriggers should be partially deployed when on uneven ground or when traversing obstacles – supported by decals on the machine itself. The kerb was 245mm to soft ground and the pallet only 130mm in height. This incident was admitted by the contractor as operator error. As the old saying goes – you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink.